When Haspel goes before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Wednesday, Republicans are bracing for what they expect will be a contentious, politically fraught hearing where Democrats will grill the nominee on her time in the CIA — in particular the period after September 11, 2001, when she supervised one of the CIA’s black sites, and her role in the destruction of CIA interrogation tapes.
It will be an unfamiliar and potentially uncomfortable position for the 33-year CIA veteran, who has spent the vast majority of her career undercover.
Haspel directly addressed the issue of interrogation techniques in excerpts of her prepared statement released by the CIA on Tuesday evening.
“I understand that what many people around the country want to know about are my views on CIA’s former detention and interrogation program,” she is expected to say, according to the excerpted testimony. “I have views on this issue, and I want to be clear. Having served in that tumultuous time, I can offer you my personal commitment, clearly and without reservation, that under my leadership CIA will not restart such a detention and interrogation program.”
For lawmakers on the fence, Haspel’s willingness to answer questions about her past will be a major factor in whether she will be able to clinch Democratic votes. And several senators from both parties say her answers will matter — they’re looking to her hearing to decide how they will vote on her nomination.
“I think a lot of these hearings sometimes are pro forma. Not (Wednesday),” said Virginia’s Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the intelligence panel. “This is being thrown right into the frying pan. But this is a very important job — particularly under this President — and the ability to say, ‘No,’ and give him the intelligence without it being affected by political influence.”
Sen. Angus King, an independent from Maine who is still undecided on Haspel, said the hearing was going to be key in whether he supports her.
“It’s an important hearing,” King said. “My principal concern is about the tapes’ destruction and what she was thinking, what her role was. That’s the essence of it.”
Haspel was selected as deputy CIA director last year, a position that did not require Senate confirmation. But President Donald Trump’s selection of Haspel to succeed Mike Pompeo atop the agency has been contentious ever since she was tapped in March. Her nomination was quickly opposed by human rights groups and many Democrats, as well as Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, over her role in the George W. Bush administration’s interrogation and detention program, in which critics say the CIA tortured terror detainees.
Critics point to Haspel’s time leading the CIA’s black site in Thailand in 2002, where harsh interrogations were conducted. Then in 2005, she was chief of staff to the CIA’s clandestine chief, Jose Rodriguez, when he ordered the destruction of tapes of CIA interrogations.
“She will cite her case, and that’s fine. Whatever she says is conditioned by what the past behavior has been, and about her role in the interrogation program,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat who led the Intelligence Committee in 2014 when it released an extensive report on the CIA’s interrogation program.
With Paul’s opposition and Sen. John McCain’s absence from Washington as he fights brain cancer, Haspel will need at least some Democratic support to win the simple majority needed for confirmation. Republicans are looking to the same red-state Democrats who voted for Pompeo’s confirmation as secretary of state last month to also back Haspel. Several have signaled they’re open to supporting her.
Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida pointed to support for Haspel from former Obama and Bush administration officials, while Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia said she “has been a true soldier and done her job.”
Other Democrats, however, say the CIA has failed to publicly disclose key details about her record that the public should have access to before she is confirmed to a Cabinet-level position.
Several Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee have urged the CIA and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats to make Haspel’s record in the interrogation program public.
The CIA has declassified some materials, including an internal 2011 report on the tape destruction clearing her of wrongdoing. And the agency provided additional classified material to senators but has argued that the information cannot be made public for security reasons.
Democrats say the response is insufficient, and they have complained that the CIA is selectively releasing favorable parts of Haspel’s record.
They are also warning that Haspel will say little to nothing about the controversial parts of her career during the open hearing — there is also a classified session for senators — because they remain classified.
“As of now, this is headed toward a secret confirmation process,” said Sen. Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, adding later, “It is going to take place in public. Yet I believe, as of now, people will not know much of what the nominee was doing during that crucial period and will not know a number of the facts … that relate to her record and who she really is.”
Haspel and the CIA tried to push back on the criticisms of her record in the lead-up to the hearing.
In her private conversations with senators, Haspel has said that the post-September 11, 2001, period was a different era. She has assured lawmakers she is opposed to restarting the CIA’s interrogation program and is fully committed to current law, according to two sources with knowledge of the conversations.
The CIA has waged its own public relations campaign for Haspel, releasing an extensive biography and tweeting support for her nomination. Dozens of former intelligence officials, including senior Obama administration officials, have expressed support for her nomination.
Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr has been a vocal supporter of Haspel’s, and has argued that the CIA cannot declassify the materials that Democrats are seeking.
“This is an opportunity for the most qualified candidate nominated for that post to have an opportunity to share with America her expertise, her knowledge and her passion for the agency,” the North Carolina Republican said.
Haspel’s leadership experience has left many in the GOP leadership confident she’ll get the job.
“She’s got the résumé. She’s got all the field work. She knows this job cold,” Sen. John Thune of South Dakota, a member of GOP leadership, told CNN. Thune said Haspel “enjoys broad support among Republicans. The question is are there Democrats that will vote for her?”